BexxAir vor dem Aus?

[Diego A. Maradona]

Wie sang bereits John Lennon, die alte Ökotrommel:

Imagine - there´s no airline!

[bexx]

Nur als Beitrag zur Versachlichung:



Press release Sofia, January 6 2005


imagine air opens tender of 10.000.000 lev

New Bulgarian price fighter in aviation will start flights second quarter of 2005

The new Bulgarian price fighter in aviation imagine air will start regular flights to several destinations in the second quarter of 2005. The company selected 8 airline companies who are invited to compete for a tender of 10.000.000 lev. The price fighter expects to fly more than 70.000 passengers to their destinations in 2005.

imagine air has sent the invitations to participate to both Bulgarian and foreign airline companies. The winning airline will provide imagine air with airplanes and cockpit crew. The airlines have been selected on their reliability, service, fleet and reputation and have two weeks to send in their offers. Considering the amount and the surplus of available capacity imagine air expects to receive offers from all the airlines.

According to Dirk Wiesemann, commercial director, leasing airplanes from an existing airline offers by far the best possibilities for a very low ticket price: ‘ It allows us to operate with very little overhead and concentrate ourselves on a fast, smooth and reliable operation. Until we have the last offer it is too early to announce the destinations and prices. With our formula though we expect to be able to offer tickets for half the price as the cheapest tickets on these destinations.‘ The company expects to reveal prices and destinations at the end of January 2005. It will sell tickets through a selected group of travel agencies, via its call center and its website: http://www.fly-imagine.com.

imagine air is founded by a group of German and Polish investors. Dirk Wiesemann was the former founder of bexx air which was closed by the commission for trade and consumer protection (CTCP). This institution claimed that bexx air was not in possession of the necessary documents. This has still to be proved in a court case. imagine air had intensive consultation and will start with the necessary documents and licenses as previously requested.

[Triple Nickel]

Thanks for straighten this out...

I'm very curious to your new destinations!!!

Greetz, Ron

[FNB - 09/27]

Ja fein, das liest man in allen Foren ...

[wolke7]

Ja fein, das liest man in allen Foren ...

Stimmt - z. B. bei http://www.airliners.de findet man diese Erklärung auch. Es spricht auch nichts dagegen, ist doch eine simple Möglichkeit, ein Vorhaben publik zu machen, die nichts kostet!


Nachdenklicher werde ich bei:

Sofia Warns against Bogus Low-Fare Airline


Business: 10 January 2005, Monday.

The new low-fare airline Imagine Air planning to take over the niche from recently closed Bexx Air does not exist in the register of Bulgaria's Civil Aviation Administration and is not authorized to carry out whatever aviation services under actual legislation.

This was said Monday in a press release of the Transport Ministry in a reaction to last week's media reports that a group of German and Polish investors have founded an air carrier - Imagine Air - with plans to start regular flights to several destinations in the second quarter of 2005.

As of the moment, the companies named "Imagine Investment" Ltd., or otherwise quoted as Imagine Air, are not incorporated as airline operators and thus are not authorized to deliver commercial flight services under the existing Civil Aviation Act and related regulations, the Transport Ministry said.

The same name companies have neither applied for an aviation operator certificate, its official press release added.

Commercial director of the airline was announced to be Dirk Wiesemann, the former founder of Bexx Air, which was closed last year by the state trade and consumer protection watchdog over charges that the firm was operating without license.

For its part, Bexx Air accused the government of corruption.

von: http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=43453 Sofia News Agency

Steckt dahinter ein "Steine in den Weg legen" seitens der bulgarischen Behörden oder Anzeichen planlosen Vorgehens durch fly imagine?


Gruß

wolke7

[dD]

Ich glube der Herr Wiesemann ist ein ziemlicher Dickkopf und bleibt einfach bei der Ansicht er könnte mit seiner starren Haltung auch ohne Gesetzesbefolgung durchs leben kommen.

Mal sehen was daraus wird.

[Morpheus]

Carefull dD, this is still media!!! maybe everything is OK with Imagine. I think they won't make the same misstake twice!?!

I agree with you if you say that you don't trust this entire story. I also don't like it, but again.... maybe there is nothing wrong!!??!!

[dD]

Carefull dD, this is still media!!! maybe everything is OK with Imagine. I think they won't make the same misstake twice!?!

I agree with you if you say that you don't trust this entire story. I also don't like it, but again.... maybe there is nothing wrong!!??!!

But it has been wrong! A lot of customers didn't get theyr money back from Mr. Wiesemann.
For me this is not acceptable!

Even if they start with a new Airline (what ever they have with their governement??) this people have to get their money back and I think a kind of additional "present" for this long time they didn't know whats happening.

[Morpheus]

Yeah, I totally agree with you, but you know that all these people are also reading the forum and than you cannot say personel things like this. Maybe Herr W. has followed all the rules and maybe he did nothing wrong!!??!! Maybe it is the fault of the system they used??? Maybe the Bulgarian government is vanishing away competition for "their" Bulgarian Airlines?????

Unfortunately we do not know these kind of things? So, in my opinion this is not the place to put the guilt with a certain person!!!??!!

maybe we should drink a coffee together again and discuss about this!!??!!

[bexx]

Hi out there,

can everyone imagine the administration would have given us a license under our name / investors ? :-)

We will present the license and all documents before we start.

But it is not a matter of these licenses: Its about a free market.

And by the way: The transport minister is not responsible in these matters (he cares for cars, busses, train, airlines, telecom). But as we do not have an own aircraft we can not even become an airline. Its like a car document without a car. It is the minister for ecnomy. He is responsible for all other businesses such as travel agencies and tour operators.

May I kindly ask anyone to read our statements before accusing us of any kind of fraud?

Pls see http://83.228.113.227/imagine/license-en.pdf and http://83.228.113.227/imagine/bexxair-en.pdf

Regards from Sofia.

[Triple Nickel]

@ bexx: No worries, everything will be good at the end....


I read on your website that you have planned to release your prices and destinations by the end of january.

Cann you also tell us about the possible starting date? I know I don't have to ask you if you are flying from NRN again to Sofia, because you probably can and may not tell...

I hope you will have succes with this new project!

Greetz, Ron

[wolke7]

Wieder ein leicht veränderter Look auf der Fly Imagine - Seite:

http://www.fly-imagine.com

[Triple Nickel]

Yes, and they are aslo not keeping to their promise:

imagine air will release its low low prices at the end of January 2005.

Imagine they crashed allready...



Ron

[White Cap]

Yes, and they are aslo not keeping to their promise:

imagine air will release its low low prices at the end of January 2005.

Imagine they crashed allready...



Ron

Hello all,
This is an extract taken from Sofia news, which I posted in Aiport Cafe:-

'At the beginning of January a new low-fare airline announced it would start regular flights to several destinations in the second quarter of 2005.
The Transport Ministry was quick to warn that Imagine Air plans to take over the niche from recently closed Bexx Air and is not authorized to carry out aviation services'.

Cheers,
White Cap

[wolke7]

@ White Cap

Right! But have a look at these postings even on this page.

Nearly the same text:

Sofia Warns against Bogus Low-Fare Airline


Business: 10 January 2005, Monday.

The new low-fare airline Imagine Air planning to take over the niche from recently closed Bexx Air does not exist in the register of Bulgaria's Civil Aviation Administration and is not authorized to carry out whatever aviation services under actual legislation.

This was said Monday in a press release of the Transport Ministry in a reaction to last week's media reports that a group of German and Polish investors have founded an air carrier - Imagine Air - with plans to start regular flights to several destinations in the second quarter of 2005.

As of the moment, the companies named "Imagine Investment" Ltd., or otherwise quoted as Imagine Air, are not incorporated as airline operators and thus are not authorized to deliver commercial flight services under the existing Civil Aviation Act and related regulations, the Transport Ministry said.

The same name companies have neither applied for an aviation operator certificate, its official press release added.

Commercial director of the airline was announced to be Dirk Wiesemann, the former founder of Bexx Air, which was closed last year by the state trade and consumer protection watchdog over charges that the firm was operating without license.

For its part, Bexx Air accused the government of corruption.

... and the reaction from Bexx:

Hi out there,

can everyone imagine the administration would have given us a license under our name / investors ?

We will present the license and all documents before we start.

But it is not a matter of these licenses: Its about a free market.

And by the way: The transport minister is not responsible in these matters (he cares for cars, busses, train, airlines, telecom). But as we do not have an own aircraft we can not even become an airline. Its like a car document without a car. It is the minister for ecnomy. He is responsible for all other businesses such as travel agencies and tour operators.

May I kindly ask anyone to read our statements before accusing us of any kind of fraud?

Pls see http://83.228.113.227/imagine/license-en.pdf and http://83.228.113.227/imagine/bexxair-en.pdf

Regards from Sofia.

Gruß

wolke7