TACAN = ILS ?

[letsmoveit]

Frage an die Experten :

Kann ein TACAN-System das Instrumentenlandesystem ILS ersetzen, oder hat es zumindest ähnliche Funktionen, die einen Instrumentenanflug ermöglichen ?
Wäre toll, wenn jemand Infos hat.

[BWAirlines]

I know a TACAN as a nav syste for militairy use. Just like a normal VOR/DME. A TACAN signal can be caught by civil aircraft as a DME system. I'm not so sure but I think that a TACAN can't send ILS signals.

nav beacons:
VOR VHF Omnidirectional Range
DME Distance Measuring Equipment
NDB Non-Directional radio Beacon
TACAN Tactical Air Navigator
ILS Instrument Landing System
MLS Microwave Landing System (new)
OM Outer Marker
MM Middle Marker
IM Inner Marker
FM Fan Marker

An ILS can be made with:
GP Glidepath
LLZ Localizer
DME Distance Measuring Equipment

There are some kinds of VOR's
DVOR is a Doppler VHF omni-Range
TVOR = Terminal VHF Omni-directional Range
etc etc..


If there are some additions, send them here
THis is just from what I know without books and so on..

[letsmoveit]

Thanks for that bunch of infos

The background of the question was and is, that in Gütersloh they will install TACAN soon, but the ILS is gone, so I am trying to find out, if they will be able to bring down fixed wing flying on the ground in all terms of weather just like with an ILS, once that TACAN is installed, or if it is just an help in case to locate ETUO for visitors and foreign chopers.

What do you think they wouls use it for ?

[Triple Nickel]

Tactical Air Navigation system. An ultra-high frequency electronic navigation aid which provides suitably-equipped aircraft with a continuous indication of bearing and distance to the selected Tacan station. The distance element can be received by civilian DMF equipment, but otherwise Tacan is principally a military navaid.
Tactical Air Navigation - An air navigation aid which provides aircraft (mostly military) a continuous bearing and distance to the station. Note: For purposes of this study, all TACAN fixes are approximate estimate, and should be verified by actual flight check, then evaluated for community impact.

By reading this info wich i found on the web, I think that a TACAN fix is not suitable or comparable with an ILS system.

(are you trying to modify the TACAN at Gütersloh to ILS??? )

Greetz, Ron

[letsmoveit]

Yes Sir, you got me right

I am just trying to find out, how this TACAN-think fits into the puzzle of
comments on the camp, that fixed wing flying will take place sooner then we might expect it.
The guys from ATC told me, that TACAN is not really required for the chopper-flying, so whats it good for then anyway ?
Questions over questions, and the more details I get collected how it works and how it is used, the sooner I will solve that mysery

[BWAirlines]

Maybe they are planning bigger operations on ETUO? And it depends on the locations of the TACAN; but maybe the can biild an ILS system on top of it... (weird look but there is a possibility if the TACAN can be placed on the correct position).

It can also be that the TACAN is for use as a waypoint. So not for the airbase itself, but for overflying MIL traffic. And in that case they can be withdrawing the ILS from the base because they are also going to slowly close the base . I defenitely hope they won't.. Keep the RAFG alive!!

And maybe, it's just a temporary change..
We'll see..

[BWAirlines]

REMINDING!!!!

OK guys.. this could be the answer:

They could be starting with "PAR", which means Precision Approach Radar.
This is a kind of ATC but with this the controller gives instructions to the pilots how to get to the runway. " little bit more to the left, your altitude is 1000ft, descend 700ft, correct about 10° to the right, stay on this heading, report runway in sight" Haha or something like that

[letsmoveit]

Well, I would prefer your offer that they will place an ILS on top of the TACAN to keep this base alive

The guys from England are returning to ETUO in June to fix all the equipment, and maybe afterwards after the location of the TACAN once is known from its position you can speculate more about its further use.
I heard an comment today, that they wonna use it for approaches from NATO-planes mainly, cause right now overshoots are handled via bases like Bückeburg regarding ATC, and with TACAN they could come in for an approach straight away.